Chris Cuomo pressed Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton on Tuesday. The topic? His opposition to the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and its cost-cutting efforts.
DOGE claims to have saved $65 billion in government spending. Fraud reduction is part of that number. But Moulton disagreed. He told Cuomo on CUOMO that DOGE wasn’t improving efficiency. Instead, he said it was making government "nonexistent."
“DOGE is not making government more efficient. It’s making government nonexistent,” Moulton argued. “It’s completely unaccountable. They can’t get out of their own way.”
He then accused DOGE of posting false savings reports. “They just had to retract their top four or five big savings because they were fraudulent on their own website,” he said. “In other words, they were posting fraudulent numbers.”
Cuomo pushed back. “But it makes it seem like you’re defending the status quo and not wanting to find all of the pork that people hate,” he said.
Moulton quickly tried to interrupt. He stammered before calling Cuomo’s response “not fair.” He claimed he had already suggested cuts earlier in the segment, specifically at the Pentagon.
“There are a lot of places where I’m perfectly willing to modernize our government,” he insisted. “To make it more efficient, to make a lot of cuts and save taxpayer money. We should all be in favor of that.”
Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett weighed in separately. Speaking to Charlamagne Tha God, she downplayed the level of waste in the federal government.
“I’m not going to say that there’s a lot — I’m going to say that it does exist,” Crockett admitted. “I don’t think that there’s a lot.”
But the Government Accountability Office disagrees. It estimates the government could be losing between $233 million and $521 million to fraud annually.
Cuomo has warned Democrats before. On Feb. 19, he criticized them for opposing everything Trump and DOGE leader Elon Musk do.
“It seems like anything that Trump or Musk does, they have to condemn,” Cuomo said. “Trump is a Nazi. Musk has apartheid roots … And to me, it just proves they haven’t learned their lesson yet.”
He didn’t stop there. “They do seem like they’re defending the status quo,” Cuomo added. “They’re just defending the establishment.”
“You want to be in the business of better,” he said. “And they seem like they’re still in the business of painting the other side as worse.”